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From: ArKLyte_ - view profile
Date: Fri, Jun 4 2004 11:40 am
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Sex After Death (Article 5)

Realising man's weakness for sex, Islam has presented an unusual
theory of carnal gratification, which is most beguiling, blissful and
buffeting. It holds that sexual urge does not perish with death
because the man is Muslim, he will be resurrected and given a place in
paradise where he will enjoy the choicest sex day and night. Again,
sensual pleasures are reserved for man only, and houris i.e. the most
beautiful virgins, who inhabit paradise, are totally submissive to
their male master. This view represents the Islamic sexual psychology
for being consistent with the Prophetic stand point of "Dominance-urge
versus Feminine Charm" because here woman surrenders herself
completely to man along with her physical, emotional and artful
beguilements. Thus, pleasing man, becomes her only pleasure.
If the reader can remember that Adam (the Biblical genitor of
humankind) defied God to gain the favour of his woman (Eve), it is not
difficult to understand that a virile man shall live and die for
Islam, which promises the choicest sex-after-death in the form of
paradise, dwelt in by the most beautiful damsels and the prettiest
boys. Here is a short description of paradise, which Islam presents
proudly and solemnly:


"This is the similitude of Paradise,
which the Godfearing have been promised:
Therein are rivers of water unstaling,
rivers of milk unchanging in flavour,
and rivers of wine - a delight to the drinkers,
rivers too, of honey purified;
and therein for them is every fruit "
(Muhammad XLVII: 15)


Here the "similitude" does not mean a "metaphorical description" as
the Muslim scholars pretend, but a true statement of paradise. The
following quotations from the Koran will leave the reader in no doubt
to this effect:


" for them (the Muslims) is reserved a definite
provision, fruit and a great honour in the Gardens of
Bliss reclining upon couches arranged face to face,
a cup from a fountain being passed round
to them, white, a pleasure to the drinkers .....
and with them wide-eyed maidens flexing
their glances as if they were slightly
concealed pearls." ( The Rangers 40: 45 )


Whereas Chinese have preferred flat-chested women, the Arabs are fond
of rising bosoms. So, in keeping with the Arab taste, the Koran
declares:


"Surely for the God-fearing
awaits a place of security,
gardens and vineyards
and maidens with swelling bosoms."
( The Tidings 30 )


The attraction of paradise is made more impelling when wine is made a
part of paradisiac living:


"Surely the pious shall be in bliss,
upon couches gazing:
You find in their faces the shining bliss
as they are offered to drink of wine sealed,
whose seal is musk and whose mixture
is Tasnim, a fountain at which to drink
those brought nigh."
( The Stinters 20: 25 )


For better illustration of the point under discussion, I may refer to
Hadith Tirmzi, volume two (p 35-40) which gives details of houris, the
ever-young virgins of paradise:


1. A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent body.
The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior lines of pearls
and rubies. She looks like a red wine in a white glass.


2. She is of white colour, and free from the routine physical
disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, menopause,
urinal and offal discharge, child-bearing, and the related pollution.


3. She is a woman characterized by modesty and flexing glances; she
never looks at any man except her husband, and feels grateful for
being the wife of her husband.


4. A houri is a young woman, free from odium and animosity. Besides,
she knows the meaning of love and has the ability to put it into
practice.


5. A houri is an immortal woman, who does not age. She speaks softly
and does not raise voice at her man; she is always reconciled with
him. Having been brought up in luxury, she is a luxury herself.


6. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large upright breasts.
Houris dwell in palaces of splendid surroundings.


Now, add to this description of houris, what Mishkat, volume three
says on pages 83-97:


7. If a houri looks down from her abode in heaven onto the earth, the
whole distance shall be filled with light and fragrance


8. A houri's face is more radiant than a mirror, and one can see one's
image in her cheek. The marrow of her shins is visible to the eyes.


9. Every man who enters paradise shall be given seventy-two houris; no
matter at what age he had died, when he enters paradise, he will
become a thirty-year-old, and he will not age any further.


10. Tirmzi, volume 2 states on page 138:


A man in paradise shall be given virility equal to that of one hundred
men!


It should be noted that men who are so potent, shall not be inclined
to anything except love-making. This is the reason that, according to
Islam, sexual gratification is the ultimate goal of life, and thus,
the behaviour of Muslims becomes sexually oriented.


Also remember that Islam does not forget the fact that hetrosexuality
is not the complete source of carnal gratification because some people
have different tastes. So, it adds a stunning dimension to the
paradisiac pleasures. The Koran says:


" God has……. provided them radiancy
and delight
and recompensed them for their (Muslim's) patience
With a Garden, and silk;
therein they shall see neither sun nor
bitter cold;
near them shall be its shades, and its clusters
hung meekly down,
and there shall be passed around them
vessels of silver, and large drinking
cups of crystal,
crystal of silver measure
very exactly.
And therein they shall be given to
drink a cup whose ingredient is ginger;
therein a spring whose name is Salsabil
Immortal youths shall go about them;
When thou seest them, thou supposest them
dispersed pearls,
When you see them you see the divine
happiness and a great kingdom.
Upon them shall be clothing of silk
and brocade; they are embellished with
bracelets of silver, and their Lord shall
give them to drink a pure draught.
(Man 76: 10-25)


This coaxing description of the unageing lads is also found in Mount
LII: 20:


"While they hand therein a cup one to another
Wherein is no idle talk, no cause of sin,
and there go around youths, their own, as
if they were concealed pearls."


It is quite clear that besides the most beautiful virgins, there are
also boys in paradise, who


1. are as pretty as pearls,
2. are ever-young because they do not age,
3. wear clothes of silk, and
4. are embellished with silver bracelets.


What is the purpose of these unusually attractive boys, who dwell in
paradise, which is constructed in such a way that every brick of gold
is followed by a brick of silver; instead of mud or cement, saffron is
used to hold them together; even its pebbles are diamonds and rubies.
He who enters paradise, shall be free from grief; he will live there
for ever, remain eternally young and will never die.


The presence of intoxicating youths in such a luxurious environment
must have some unusual purpose though the Muslim scholars claim that
they are ordinary servants, who render their services to the lucky
Muslims.


But what kind of services? An ordinary does not have to be ever-young,
pretty-like-pearls, used to drinking wine (i.e. pure draught) and
habitually wearing silken dresses and silver bracelets?


These boys cannot be ordinary servants. What are they? If I come
straight to the point, the Muslims will charge me with blasphemy and
call me an "Insultor of the Prophet" but I am nothing of the kind. I
hold the Prophet in high regard and think of him as a great national
hero, who bestowed an unusually high dignity on the Arabs. In fact, I
wish he was born in India to raise its stature compatible with the
natural bounties that this land possessses.


I may, therefore, give a short sketch of the sexual fascination that
"boys" have displayed throughout history:


Homosexuality, also known as sexual inversion, means sexual attraction
of a person to one of the same sex i.e. man to man and woman to woman.
The latter is called lesbianism for its association with the Aegean
island of Lesbos.


This deliberation is, however, concerned with male homosexuality only.
Those who practice it, think of it as a delight but its opponents find
it disgusting. The writer is neither its practitioner nor its
advocate, yet it is a real issue because it has influenced the course
of history, and therefore, requires a frank discussion whether one
likes it or not. This is why the modern legal thinking holds it as no
crime if the act takes place in private between consenting adults.


Is it a genetic condition or an acquired habit? Though one cannot give
an exclusive opinion on the subject, one can refer to certain facts,
leaving the final conclusion to the reader:


The huge systematic surveys of homosexuality that A. C. Kinsey
conducted in 1948 and 1953 showed that 37 per cent of U.S. males had
indulged in this activity. Again, the American anthropologist, C. S.
Ford, and psychologist, F. A. Bench, studied primitive societies
during 1951. In 76 communities, it was found that 64 per cent accepted
it as a normal practice.


Homosexuality has been observed in certain animals such as apes; cows
in heat are known to mount other cows, and so are cats, dogs, rabbits,
lions and horses.


Amongst humans, it is more prevalent, and is especially noticeable in
societies where sex-segregation is observed. The boys are stimulated
by the boys and resort to this practice for sexual gratification. This
may not be desirable owing to its effects on mental and physical
development of boys before reaching adolescence. On the other hand,
girls' passions are unduly suppressed to make them pious, pure and
perfect. They are taught and subjected to a discipline of high
morality. Thus value of virginity is raised sky-high, and men want to
marry virgins only, even though they may have lost their own chastity
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Date: Fri, Jun 4 2004 10:55 pm
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ArKLyte_ wrote in message ...
> Sex After Death (Article 5)

> Realising man's weakness for sex, Islam has presented an unusual
> theory of carnal gratification, which is most beguiling, blissful and
> buffeting. It holds that sexual urge does not perish with death
> because the man is Muslim, he will be resurrected and given a place in
> paradise where he will enjoy the choicest sex day and night. Again,
> sensual pleasures are reserved for man only, and houris i.e. the most
> beautiful virgins, who inhabit paradise, are totally submissive to
> their male master. This view represents the Islamic sexual psychology
> for being consistent with the Prophetic stand point of "Dominance-urge
> versus Feminine Charm" because here woman surrenders herself
> completely to man along with her physical, emotional and artful
> beguilements. Thus, pleasing man, becomes her only pleasure.
> If the reader can remember that Adam (the Biblical genitor of
> humankind) defied God to gain the favour of his woman (Eve), it is not
> difficult to understand that a virile man shall live and die for
> Islam, which promises the choicest sex-after-death in the form of
> paradise, dwelt in by the most beautiful damsels and the prettiest
> boys. Here is a short description of paradise, which Islam presents
> proudly and solemnly:

All this goes to show that christianity is superior to Islam in every
respect. That does not mean that christians have always been good
people. There are no good people. But Christ was good, and he told
people not to be selfish, not to live for themselves alone. Islam on
the other hand preaches the ultimate selfishness, even in their
hereafter the gratification of selfish lust is paramount.

I did not read anything about the position of female believers in this
everlasting fuckfest. Who are these houris? Are they the souls of
departed female believers, who even after death have to continue their
subservient role, to all intents and purposes being raped on an
eternal basis? Or are they some sort of angels, permanent denizens of
the hereafter? Sex machines? In that case what do they think happens
to their women? I am not sure I want to know, even.


This whole islam is a ghastly business, and the sooner this planet is
rid of it, the better. As to their abode in the hereafter, I am not
sure that there is any sort of paradise in store for them, for in
drawing their miserable caricature of a God who doubles as a pimp,
they are guilty of the gravest sacrilege.


But, maybe, God is even more merciful than they have bargained for.
But there will be no houris. Maybe they will have to face their own
womenfolk and answer the question why they did not treat them with
more respect.




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