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Re: Back up your assertions.
Re: Back up your assertions. -- skibummer Post Reply Top of the thread Forum
Posted by: Boris
10/27/2005, 12:12:05

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Boris> A clone is always going to be different from a natural conception because of the perfect match of chromosomes.

SKB> Yep. And why is that a problem?

Boris> That was already explained. I cannot help it if you cannot understand the explanation, and I cannot make it any simpler than I did.

Boris> Cloning is achieved by altering the reproductive process

SKB> Yep, so are other methods. Different doesn't necessarily mean bad.

Boris> Again, explained as simply as possible. I cannot help if the explanation is to sophisticated for you.

Boris> Why do you think society bans incest???? If in case you didn’t know, it is because the problems that can occur from interbreeding. Cloning would be worse than interbreeding. I don’t think you can understand that.

SKB> There is more then one reason for banning incest you realize. Inbreeding is only one of them. skibummer
10/27/2005, 07:08:49

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The donor’s parents are totally out of the picture, or you would be producing a sibling rather than a clone.
Exactly! Genetically speaking, that is what you are doing.

This is NOT the same as a normal conception where you have two different sets of chromosomes, as you do when you have a normal conception with both parents.

Didn't say it was a normal conception. Just as In Vitro isn't normal conception. Just as Egg or Sperm donation isn't normal conception.

This is something that cannot be disputed.

And to my knowledge, no one is disputing that.

A clone is always going to be different from a natural conception because of the perfect match of chromosomes.

Yep. And why is that a problem?

Cloning is achieved by altering the reproductive process

Yep, so are other methods. Different doesn't necessarily mean bad.

SKB> Why do you think society bans incest???? If in case you didn’t know, it is because the problems that can occur from interbreeding. Cloning would be worse than interbreeding. I don’t think you can understand that.

Boris> THANK YOU!!!! MAYBE, you FINALLY understand the point!!!! There is a problem with inbreeding. Now, all you have to do, is understand the reason that interbreeding is unhealthy, and you will understand why cloning is worse! Do your homework, and you might be OK after!

SKB> BTW, when you have inbreeding, you increase the chance of 'bad' genes being expressed. You do NOT have that with cloning..

Boris> Now, all you have to do, is take your last statement, and look at it very carefully. When you interbreed, you INCREASE the chance of bad genes being expressed. When you clone, you DOUBLE that chances, because you replace BOTH sets of genes with identical sets of the donor. This does not only increases your chances, it almost GUARANTEES it.



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