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Posted by: Angus Cunningham 03/03/2008, 07:50:36 (About author)
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Angus: "Because logical sounding ideas sound true, most people accept them as true; they become what normal people believe. But actually they may be logical yet irrational, which is indeed why the word "rational" was invented when the word "logical" already existed. It was invented because the word logical was powerless to point out the incoherence, in certain circumstances, of such ideas as "time is money". And this explains why some of the ideas of "normal" people can be irrational, even insane." Silverfox: "Irrelevant. You are padding" "Irrelevant" and "padding" are judgments. Silverfox making these judgments is merely ignoring the data I have pointed out in the paragraph he dismisses as "irrelevant" and "padding". Nonetheless, it is data that the word "rational" was invented when the word "logical" already existed. Why did this happen? Given the reality that a new word enters language currency only after enormous amounts of energy have been expended, why was it necessary to invent the word "rational"? One cannot truthfully dismiss my point without explaining this remarkable phenomenon. Silverfox may wish, as DWA does also, to trivialize my illustration of "time is money" being logical but irrational, but if so, we may expect that they will soon find people trivializing, to their consternations, an irrational logicality of that nature that the have come habitually to use. Silverfox: "You assume that I did not read it previously... and you know what the word 'assume' does to people huh?" Perhaps Silverfox skimmed, i.e did speed reading of, my posts on this subject? His subsequent remarks cause me to question whether he did any thinking then beyond becoming aware that the import of my posts would conflict with thunk thoughts that have become his settled ass/presumptions ever since he first heard them (at school?). I therefore invite him to read them again a little more slowly. Until one can explain the phenomenon of invention of the word "rational" when the word "logical" already existed, one will not be able to bring one's thinking fully into the present in a constructive/creative way. So, unless Silverfox wishes to accept the term "nihilistic" as descriptive of his attitudes toward certain Middle Easterners, he will have to explain why he refuses to do anything to solve the problems he is complaining about on the TT Forum. KISS works for tyrants too, Silverfox. Notwithstanding any imagination to the contrary, I think Silverfox is a "jolly good sport" (JGS). This post is, however, necessary to point out that "Keep it simple, stupid" is indeed a tyrannical demand to which we resort we feel entitled to demand that other people do our thinking for us. As to Silverfox's observation that the page on Authentic Dialogue could be made more useful to people, I accept that. I do have a booklet on the subject. One may, if -- by contributing good sport thinking -- one is deserving of it, obtain a copy from the following link: http://www.authentixcoaches.com/ACCoachingMediation.html
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