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Posted by: Angus Cunningham
03/08/2008, 08:46:50

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Silverfox: "Note that I cite religious beliefs as the cause. ie. "My god is bigger & better than your god." etc...etc....etc."

But what if one's belief were that my god and your god are virtually the same? Please refer to my post responding to Simon Bartholomew's second post.

The following extract from "Vital and Thriving Truths" bears some pertinence to this "what if" question, although, because it is an extract from a book its pertinence may not go so far, yet, as relevance for you:

In this writing, I will use the word “self” only consistently – that is to say, with the same concept always in mind. I do not claim here that this concept is definitive of the way in which English speakers either do or should use the word “self”. You are free, of course, to use this word in any way in which you wish. When writing with the implied claim that I have some truth worth articulating to others, however, I would be guilty of introducing confusion into the minds of my readers if I were to use this word, or indeed any word, in different ways in different parts of what I suggest that you read!

So, determined to do my very best to avoid any such confusion, I will use the word “self” in this writing only to refer to the energy which animates all humankind. In this sense of the word – a sense I acknowledge is personal to me, although I believe it to be shared by not a few others – your “self” and my “self”, and indeed every human being’s “self”, is very much the same. This accords quite well, although not exactly, with the datum that the genes of all human beings are more than 99.9% the same.

It does not, however, imply that we all conceive of “self” in the same way. Indeed, I reserve the term “self-images” to refer to our many different concepts of what or who animates all human beings. For all I know, this same “self” might animate all creatures, not just human beings, and might even permeate the entire universe of which I am aware, and might perhaps even permeate all the universes of which anyone who either is living, or has lived, or might live in future time, can ever be aware. You might wish to explore the relationship between my use of the word “self” and the way in which Dr. Antonio Damasio, the world-famous researcher and writer in the field of emotions and feelings based at the University of Iowa whom we came upon in Chapter IV, uses the words “protoself” and Spinoza’s Latin word “conatus”, to refer to the relentless striving for the preservation and prosperity of their lives that is found in cells, individual organisms, species of organisms, including human beings, and even organizations of individuals.

Because self is, in the way I have chosen to use the word here, very much the same energy animating all human beings, my use of the word “self” is as a linguistic symbol for an energy that not only “holds my body and mind together” but also “holds your body and mind together”. Can any of us afford to be ignorant of such an energy source (such a “mega-chi”)? If not, how may we explore and become “familiar with self ”? what's this

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