Oregon people can be odd and non-conventional. Having California next door to them makes it less noticeable, that's all.

Another page from the anti-Darwinian fittest-only-survive chronicles, on t.v. I recently saw an African water buffalo calf caught near/in/at the river's edge escape from about 6 lion females. Rather sporting of the lions, I thought. Well, one of the adult buffalo *did* horn-hook and throw one of the lions.

Oh, BTW, there was a crocodile somewhere around in the water.