Skeptic D: ""Only in hopes that it will provoke people to ‘question’ what is behind the path they choose."

Was that hope truly the major emotion/mood you were feeling, Skeptic D in the articulation of your spirited, and I felt effective, presentation of Ellis's point of view? I write this because your subsequent defence of it seemed in many instances to be unnecessarily diagnostically insulting of your interlocutors (you might want to consider the reasonability of that hypothesis in a re-read of the thread). Such behaviour, however, does seem to me to be the usual linguistic aggressivity to which eventually all inventors of a new psycho-rationality have to resort simply to stay emotionally whole in the face of the aroused critics such inventors attract.

You, however, are not, I understand, Mr. Ellis. You are unique, albeit well tutored, and perhaps even versed, in Mr. Ellis's point of view. My expectation therefore is that your genius will only escape its hutch when you find a way to recognize that Mr. Ellis had (natural, animal) resentment against many of the bigots who took offence at his words. He too was human, as are we all who participate at the TT. That being so, let us go beyond the animal to add empathy -- in which the most faithful of animals seem to me to be the exceptions that prove the rule that humans add empathy, when we suceed in being fully authentic, to animality.